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 Post subject: 3rd Tournament of Terror ends. Post comments and suggestions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:58 pm 
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I got a little burned out doing all the matches for the tourament, and Bludshot did a great job finishing out the final weeks as well as helping with other aspects. So make sure to thank him :)

This tournament has been overall a great success, in my opinion. We started with 230+ signups and completed hundreds of matches. Yes, there were some forfeits, but that was to be expected with so many new people joining. Many people greatly enjoyed the intense battles and watching the demos afterwards. Others felt that 1v1 wasn't really their thing. There were a couple disputes, but most of them were solved amicably. By and large most matches were played on time with a few timing conflicts due to real life schedules. There were some instances of ping problems in the SA and ASIA brackets in particular. Through all of that we ended up with 5 champions who are battling now amongst themselves to see who's the best. While ping does play a role, hopefully they will all have fun playing the best from each continent.

So... the future. Should we have another tournament? Any rules we should change? Any constructive criticisms? Comments? Suggests? Ect. Post 'em here:

Once again, thanks to all for participating...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:58 am 
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Double Elimination

I think there needs to be a loser's bracket. Getting dropped in the third round because you're playing a final's level match sucks. I don't mean to brag, but I could count on half a hand the number of players who can consistently beat me in 1v1. Despair is an insanely good player (otherwise I wouldn't have him on my starting lineup), but we both admitted that was a shitty match and not representative of either of our skill levels (he played bad rd 1, we both did okay rd 2, I blew dick round 3). Round 2 was reflective of how it should have gone. Look at round 3...18-6. Anybody in UrT can tell you I could not lose that bad to any player. Obviously I should have taken the match more seriously and practiced before hand, but I feel like I was cheated out of the tournament by having a particularly bad game. If despair and I played a 100 games, I doubt either of us could win more than 55. In a close matchup like that, it comes down to who doesn't choke for no reason, which is what happened to me. Don't get me wrong, Despair won square and fair and deserved to win, but I don't think I deserved to be eliminated from the tournament in only week 3. I am better than every one of the losers in week 4 but they're the ones who got easy matches week 3.

I suggest a loser's bracket because purposely seeding week 1 to ensure lopsided matches early on is wrong. I like hard matches. Map 1 and 2 against Despair were great fun (map 3 was shit from the start, couldn't land a shot to save my life, literally) and week 2 against Mofo was a fun match too. There's another player who should have gone much further (on second though, he's a dirty /sub wallhacker, so he got what he deserved:D). The winner of the loser's bracket should take on the winner of the winner's bracket. This would likely end up being the same matchup anyway, if the 2 players in the final match are the 2 best in the tournament. What a loser's bracket does is make completely fucking up a map or 2 a mistake you can rectify. I get the point of single elimination, but I don't think this tournament is big enough that switching to double elimination would incur much extra work. If it's too much work for the current admins, get more or make the site more efficient.[/b]

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fair point, i obviously wish i got a second chance myself :)
if we had some more people working on it that would be easier to do
also if we had better programming on the site that would be easier as well

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x8 = lucky win against me :)
force just ravaged u though.

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eh i wasnt having a good day against force...
shouldve just used a lr300 the whole time. wasn't a good sniping map for 1v1

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great job! I hope you will continue your good work!

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I would like to say thanks for running the tournament! Was a lot of fun, and I thank all the admins for the amount of time put in to run this.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Tournament of Terror ends. Post comments and suggestions
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:14 pm 
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It would be nice if we could get the tourney running faster this next year, but I understand that much relies upon the player's schedule.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Tournament of Terror ends. Post comments and suggestions
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we should get this up soon, and we should try to revive the 2 v2
that would be fun.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Tournament of Terror ends. Post comments and suggestions
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"We" is really me and x8, and me and x8 are really busy right now. And it takes like 20 hours to teach someone else how to admin the 1v1 site, something I'm not planning on doing again lol.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Tournament of Terror ends. Post comments and suggestions
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I learn very quickly. I'm familiar with administrating e107 and different forum systems. (smf, phpbb2 etc) I have a good grasp on those type things.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Tournament of Terror ends. Post comments and suggestions
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Ok, well that's good to know, but the 1v1 is till going to be on ice at least until FTW starts.

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dondon wrote:
Double Elimination

I think there needs to be a loser's bracket. Getting dropped in the third round because you're playing a final's level match sucks. I don't mean to brag, but I could count on half a hand the number of players who can consistently beat me in 1v1. Despair is an insanely good player (otherwise I wouldn't have him on my starting lineup), but we both admitted that was a shitty match and not representative of either of our skill levels (he played bad rd 1, we both did okay rd 2, I blew dick round 3). Round 2 was reflective of how it should have gone. Look at round 3...18-6. Anybody in UrT can tell you I could not lose that bad to any player. Obviously I should have taken the match more seriously and practiced before hand, but I feel like I was cheated out of the tournament by having a particularly bad game. If despair and I played a 100 games, I doubt either of us could win more than 55. In a close matchup like that, it comes down to who doesn't choke for no reason, which is what happened to me. Don't get me wrong, Despair won square and fair and deserved to win, but I don't think I deserved to be eliminated from the tournament in only week 3. I am better than every one of the losers in week 4 but they're the ones who got easy matches week 3.

I suggest a loser's bracket because purposely seeding week 1 to ensure lopsided matches early on is wrong. I like hard matches. Map 1 and 2 against Despair were great fun (map 3 was shit from the start, couldn't land a shot to save my life, literally) and week 2 against Mofo was a fun match too. There's another player who should have gone much further (on second though, he's a dirty /sub wallhacker, so he got what he deserved:D). The winner of the loser's bracket should take on the winner of the winner's bracket. This would likely end up being the same matchup anyway, if the 2 players in the final match are the 2 best in the tournament. What a loser's bracket does is make completely fucking up a map or 2 a mistake you can rectify. I get the point of single elimination, but I don't think this tournament is big enough that switching to double elimination would incur much extra work. If it's too much work for the current admins, get more or make the site more efficient.[/b]


Double Elimination would be nice. But those who forfeit would not get automatically dropped to a loser's bracket. If you forfeit, you forfeit from the tourney.

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]3east wrote:
dondon wrote:
Double Elimination

I think there needs to be a loser's bracket. Getting dropped in the third round because you're playing a final's level match sucks. I don't mean to brag, but I could count on half a hand the number of players who can consistently beat me in 1v1. Despair is an insanely good player (otherwise I wouldn't have him on my starting lineup), but we both admitted that was a shitty match and not representative of either of our skill levels (he played bad rd 1, we both did okay rd 2, I blew dick round 3). Round 2 was reflective of how it should have gone. Look at round 3...18-6. Anybody in UrT can tell you I could not lose that bad to any player. Obviously I should have taken the match more seriously and practiced before hand, but I feel like I was cheated out of the tournament by having a particularly bad game. If despair and I played a 100 games, I doubt either of us could win more than 55. In a close matchup like that, it comes down to who doesn't choke for no reason, which is what happened to me. Don't get me wrong, Despair won square and fair and deserved to win, but I don't think I deserved to be eliminated from the tournament in only week 3. I am better than every one of the losers in week 4 but they're the ones who got easy matches week 3.

I suggest a loser's bracket because purposely seeding week 1 to ensure lopsided matches early on is wrong. I like hard matches. Map 1 and 2 against Despair were great fun (map 3 was shit from the start, couldn't land a shot to save my life, literally) and week 2 against Mofo was a fun match too. There's another player who should have gone much further (on second though, he's a dirty /sub wallhacker, so he got what he deserved:D). The winner of the loser's bracket should take on the winner of the winner's bracket. This would likely end up being the same matchup anyway, if the 2 players in the final match are the 2 best in the tournament. What a loser's bracket does is make completely fucking up a map or 2 a mistake you can rectify. I get the point of single elimination, but I don't think this tournament is big enough that switching to double elimination would incur much extra work. If it's too much work for the current admins, get more or make the site more efficient.[/b]


Double Elimination would be nice. But those who forfeit would not get automatically dropped to a loser's bracket. If you forfeit, you forfeit from the tourney.


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